I was making a comparison with the two witnesses and the Messiah who are coming in the end as to who they MIGHT be in the greek scriptures to the hebrew scriptures. That's all:) Wasn't questioning the validity of Mary's virginity. Wasn't there.
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Who comes before the Messiah?
by label licker indeuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!
i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.
but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.
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Who comes before the Messiah?
by label licker indeuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!
i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.
but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.
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Deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, Malachi 4:5 says look! I am sending you Elijah before the coming of the great day of Jehovah and John 1:19 the people are asking John if he is the Christ, or is he Elijah, or is he the prophet.
We know Christ is coming again. But according to Malachi, Elijah has to come before the Christ. It was as though John and others knew this for why ask if he's the Christ or Elijah or the Prophet?
Now go to Revelation 11:5,6. Read up on what the two witnesses can do in the end. Fire issues from their mouth. Didn't Elijah shut off rain from the heaven, having fire fall from heaven in answer to prayer, called down fire on King Ahaziah's captain and his 50 men and parted the Jordan?Revelation 11:6 they have authorities over the waters to turn them into blood. Didn't Moses turn the Nile River into blood?
I'm just saying before the end comes, the two witnesses have to appear for three and a half years and then the Christ comes who will do the judgeing. The two witnesses have to die and then Harmegeddon( the seventh trumpet is blown). According to the society, they say they are the two witnesses yet harmegeddon never came right after like the scriptures state in Revelation 11.
And wasn't it Matthew 17:3 where it was Elijah and Moses who were with Christ in the transfiguration? Unless I would have read the hebrew scriptures there would be noway I could of understood the two witnesses in Revelation. God, did the WTBTS mess those scriptures up!
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Help needed: JC standards/questions for "Drunkenness"
by respectful_observer ini'm hoping those of you in the jwn community may be able to help me out.
an acquaintance (of legal drinking age) may soon be sitting for jc under the charge of "drunkenness".. to those of you who have direct experience either serving on a jc, or being the subject of a jc related to the misuse of alcohol:.
- could you provide a list of questions that were asked of the accused?.
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Splash, I was at a jw wedding one time where a publisher had to be scraped off the floor he was so drunk. The po looked at him and said don't think this won't be a disfellowshipping charge. What got him off was he said he had taken his meds and didn't know you couldn't mix alchohol with them. I always thought that if I were ever in those circumstances that's the card I would play. Unfortunately, the only time I drink is at judicial committees.
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YOU'VE GOT TO LAUGH!!
by The Searcher in"all of our teachings are based on the bible, not on the writings of some religious leader in the united states.
"1 thessalonians 2:13. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/not-a-sect/.
all of the teachings (i counted 8) which have been reversed in the july 15th watchtower were based on the bible???????????.
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LOL!Those human leaders will kick you out if you question them unlike Jesus.
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I feel it the most deceiving religion on earth! I have to say satan is really good at what he does. First the lovebombing and then the kick out the doors if you don't devote your whole life to them. Oh, and don't ever ever question their doctrines.
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Thank you LoisLane Looking for Superman
by TotallyADD inmy wife and i ran up against a brick wall trying to find out imformation on our search of finding my half brother.
will loislane pm me and offered us her service in finding him.
found us some very good leads but surprise, surprise she came across someone i totally forgot about from my childhood.
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Here's to LoisLaneI know what it feel like when you find lost loved ones. After my father died we were going through pics of my mom and her siblings and all their names were on the back of the pics. One by one we found the last two who were stil alive and flew out west to meet them. So many stories of my mom as a girl and so many relatives. Unfortunately, when they found out we were jw's at the time they wanted nothing to do with us. Oh well.
TotallyADD enjoy you new journey with your new family. Your in for a blast and LoisLane you are our family, never forget that ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well I gotta go......
by punkofnice in...i might drop in every now and then but i hope you all enjoy life, escape the watchtower(r) and live prosperous lives.. i can't say i contribute much here anyway (and i'm not attention seeking).. i'm just going to get on with life away from the constant reminder of the mistakes i made being a jw zombie drone.. i guess i'm just going to fade.......rather quickly.. of course i didn't need to make any posts here to disappear but i thought it'd be polite and very british to bid you all a fond farewell.. see you all sometime.....maybe.....maybe not.....maybe....... bye!.
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don't pm me as i won't be checking the pms.. .
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Wishing you all the best and be safe on your journeyMay it be kind to you and your loved ones!
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Can the elders stop you from entering the kingdom hall if
by label licker inyou continue to talk to the witlesses after being disfellowshipped.
we were at a funeral recently and disfellowshipped hubby would talk to anyone who who would come up to him and talk.
he said he wasn't going to be rude and that the rule of not talking to df ones don't apply to him.
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Blondie, I so agree with you on that. The maturity of these men who are the shepherds of this congregation explains alot as to what we have seen and experienced. That very same elder was on the platform making fun of a girl hitchhiking using the word to describe her as looking real "skanky". A majority of the audience laughed yet after the meeting I asked him if he witnessed to her since who needs the truth more? He just stared at me with a blank look like I was from outerspace.
When I brought my disabled sister to the meeting one time both him and his wife stood five feet away stareing at her but wouldn't say hello. My mom use to see the same thing so she would stay at home with the two kids. I understand the reactions of some but will never tolerate them laughing and making fun of ones who can't help themselves. And that's our fill-in circuit overseer/elder.
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Can the elders stop you from entering the kingdom hall if
by label licker inyou continue to talk to the witlesses after being disfellowshipped.
we were at a funeral recently and disfellowshipped hubby would talk to anyone who who would come up to him and talk.
he said he wasn't going to be rude and that the rule of not talking to df ones don't apply to him.
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Lavaverite, the word retarded as an adjective:bad, poor, sucks, generally displeasing ect... look it up!
I had two siblings(one who is still alive) both physically and mentally disabled.
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Can the elders stop you from entering the kingdom hall if
by label licker inyou continue to talk to the witlesses after being disfellowshipped.
we were at a funeral recently and disfellowshipped hubby would talk to anyone who who would come up to him and talk.
he said he wasn't going to be rude and that the rule of not talking to df ones don't apply to him.
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He would never make a scene but if people come up to him and talk first like at the funeral, he can't be rude and ignore them. He's got too much class for that. I guess if he was to talk to them first then they could kick him out.
I do remember one time a gal who had alot of emotional issues from being df'd by these same elders that df'd hubby and they were laughing one time how they locked her out of the hall and she fell to the ground balling yet these jerks thought it funny to lock the doors on her. Following year she went to our old hall and she was talking out loud with an elder on each side of her during the memorial. She was a victim of a molestation as a child and a raping later on in life. I didn't learn of this until recently after we were out and my heart bled for her. She ended up committing suicide about five years ago. No family noone to love her. I guess it makes it easier for us to never look on going back especially when we saw how the elders were acting talking about her. And this was after she took her life.
Come to think of it, I know of nine now that have taken their lives, mostly women and all of them who had no close families that would care about them. Why? This discusting religion. When we were in the world, the only ones I knew that took their lives was my mother and she was jw.